Note: This is an incredibly image-heavy post. Rather than filling out the alt-text for screen readers, I started putting, “This is a Facebook post, text to follow” or whatever in the alt-text and then I was like, “Jenny, just put a note at the top of the page explaining that every image is a screencap of Jamie McGuire’s Facebook post and comment threads.” So, ta-da! Every image is of a Jamie McGuire Facebook post or comment thread and all of the comments are presented as-is in the body of this blog post.
Oh, and speaking of “as-is,” please keep in mind that these are emotionally charged Facebook comments flying back and forth and putting [sic] everywhere someone mistyped or made an error would have been akin to one of the labors of Hercules, so I didn’t do that.
Now, these screenshots don’t show everything. These were taken by people and either they gave me permission to use them or they sent them to me. I don’t creep Jamie McGuire’s Facebook page because I value my fleeting time on this plane of existence. So, if it seems choppy or something is missing or doesn’t make sense, it’s because I’m just working with what I’ve got.
Believe me, it’s enough.
CW: Racism, discussion of Ahmaudd Arbery’s death.
On May 7, Jamie McGuire posted this to her author page:
“I know I normally keep this page opinion free, and for book stuff only, but I feel like this is important. If you haven’t seen this viral story yet PLEASE look up #runwithmaud and sign the petition. This story is absolutely heartbreaking.”
On her personal page, she shared…this:
“Definitely conversation and discussion worthy. What are your thoughts? **if you don’t watch the video until the END, don’t comment.**
Yup. That’s every MAGA’s Black Friend™, Candace Owens, in her infamous video explaining why Ahmaud Arbery’s lynching was justified. And Jamie just wants to “discuss.”
Let’s take a peek at that discussion:
Marisela Elias: “This girl is crazy! Ahmaud was lynched. There is no way around it. He was sought out by these two white supremacists and gunned down in broad daylight! The only reason they are behind bars is because the media and enraged citizens refused to stay quiet and this was only after two months of his murder.”
John Eighner: “Marisela Elias where is your proof they were white supremacists? You are brainwashed. [link to YouTube video, “Video Emerges Showing Ahmaud Arbery Entering Home At NIGHT…]
Jamie McGuire: “Marisela Elias yeah, WHY are we just hearing about this/seeing action when it went down Feb 23?? Fishy.”
Marisela Elias: “Jamie McGuire, it’s surprising to me how people could actually find a way of justifying his murder. I agree it is fishy as to why the officials decided to keep quiet about this horrendous, hateful, and racist act. Shame on you for sharing this person’s view and ignoring the fact that he was killed based on the color of his skin and not because he committed a certain crime.”
The thing about McGuire is that she often pretends to be representing both sides, playing devil’s advocate, merely discussing things that she finds interesting:
Kira Berger: “This is so messed up. Saying this isn’t about race it false on so many levels. If Ahmaud was a white man this wouldn’t have happened in the first place. PERIOD. No question about it. They might have not gone out hunting for someone to shoot at random, but let’s be clear here, he was shot because he was BLACK. If I would have done the same thing, I’d be find today, because I’m white. I might have had to explain to the police, but that was it. I wouldn’t have been shot. It’s despicable anyone is defending murderers with this BS.”
Jamie McGuire: “Kira Berger whoa whoa whoa. I was getting ready to like your comment before your last sentence.”
Hennessy Chism: “Jamie isn’t defending anyone she’s just sharing a post. I disagree with the speaker and I wouldn’t have shared it but Jamie is just trying to say that she thinks the logic is interesting. Logic can be interesting without outright agreement.”
Jamie McGuire: [row of upward pointing finger emojis]
Notice anything odd there? Berger never accused McGuire of trying to justify the lynching but both McGuire and Chism jump in to defend McGuire. Berger could easily have been talking about Candace Owen.
Kira Berger: “Hennessy Chism Maybe so, but if I share something I usually agree with it, and it not, I say so. Unfortunately, her past comments don’t lend themselves to give the benefit of the doubt. But you’re right. I shouldn’t have assumed. [smile emoji].”
Jamie McGuire: “if you follow me at all, you’d know I enjoy sharing alternate/interesting/dissenting views and discussing. I NEVER said I agreed. The facts of the case are interesting, and they’re still rolling out so how could I possibly know enough about anything to have an opinion?”
Jamie McGuire: “Kira, thanks for letting me know you follow to hate (“her past comments”–which is BS btw). That helps me use the block button effectively.”
But you had enough facts to form an opinion to talk about what a tragedy it was and demand justice for Arbery on your professional page. And here’s another tell: McGuire instantly blocks Berger from her page because Berger hasn’t agreed with every single one of McGuire’s political stances in the past and has spotted a pattern that has been apparent to most people since Trump’s campaign started and she hit a Tweet-liking spree.
Interestingly enough, one person McGuire doesn’t seem combative toward is Eighner, who agrees with Owens’s video and doesn’t feel this is a racial incident, though he posts a graphic about interracial violent crime incidents in the same thread:
Hennessy Chism: “I totally disagree with this girl. I think she’s really failing to consider the impact of systemic oppression and institutionalized racism on AfAm populations.”
John Eighner: “Hennessy Chism [interracial violent crime incident infographic]”
John Eighner: “Hennessy Chism [same YouTube video Eighner posted before]”
Jamie McGuire: “Hennessey Chism there is some history (according to this video) that he’d been stealing fron the neighborhood homes prior, but I have not looked into this myself. NOT saying his death was justified in any way, just answering your question.”
Hennessey Chism: “John Eighner Who said I was a lib? No, I want to know what he stole, tell me. Show me proof that he stole something and that the murderers knew that. And tell me why they didn’t call the police instead of shooting? Because he was black.”
John Eighner: “Hennessey Chism wow you did not watch the videos did you because if you had Candice says they called the police”
John Eighner: “Hennessey Chism you have zero evidence that he was killed for being black. White intruders get killed all the time by white people. [link to a story headlined: “No charges against Oklahoma man who killed 3 intruders”]
Jamie McGuire: “John Eighner they did call the police. Several did, that’s true.”
So far, it appears that the only person McGuire is “discussing” things with is the guy running his own personal Breitbart in the comments. When she engages with anyone else, however…
Faith Anne Hudson: “I liked her point of view. I don’t think anyone is saying that his death is justified, just that it wasn’t a hate crime.”
Jurgita La Lionne: “Faith Anne Hudson unjustified death, yet no big deal? So what was it then? He got killed for fun? Out of boredom? Sit this one out, Karen.”
Jamie McGuire: “Jurgita La Lionne why so angry? That’s not what Faith said. Please read and discuss or bow out. Rudeness gets deleted.”
Jurgita La Lionne: “Jamie McGuire ignorance is what makes me angry. You, apparently, are only interested in discussing with those who blow into the same flute you do. Bowing out!”
Faith Anne Hudson: “Jurgita La Lionne no one said it wasn’t a big deal. I don’t think that’s what the video conveys at all. I think she’s just pointing out that something that looks like an unmediated death is being twitsted by the media to look like a hate crime during an election year.”
Jamie McGuire: “How did you know I played the flute?”
She has plenty of time to tone police and make “clever” retorts on a post about Ahmaud Arbery’s lynching death, not so much time to “discuss” with anyone who disagrees with her. With Candace Owens, I mean. Not McGuire. Because McGuire still hasn’t declared what side she’s taking. She’s just here to start an important conversation about racism where no one is allowed to express anger about racism. Emilia Reyes notices this immediately:
Tiffany Snow: “She’s right. It happens every time. The media go crazy. I do wish there was more concern and conversation about black on black crime. The number of murders in places like Chicago is horrendous.”
Emilia Reyes: “Here we go with the black on black crime. The difference is when it is black on black crime, someone is arrested and convincted! [multiple exclamation points I’ll skip for screen readers] So sit down”
Jamie McGuire: “Emilia Reyes all those exclamation points definitely validate your statement.”
Emilia Reyes: “I don’t need you, an anti vaxxer, racist, telling me shit. When you live what we POC live, then maybe I’ll hear what you have to say. There is no other argument to this. He was murdered for being black.”
Emilia Reyes: “And it’s funny how you comment to me but not to the man on here calling someone a dumb cunt.”
Jamie McGuire: “Emilia Reyes She called me a cunt first. Keep up.”
Jamie McGuire: “Emilia Reyes A POC is saying otherwise in the video. Not me. Good Lord…”
Emilia Reyes: “You agree with it, let’s be real. You didn’t post it to have a conversation. You know exactly what you were doing. You just don’t have any room to talk about it. We don’t want Trump lovers talking about what is racially motivated and what is not.”
Emilia Reyes: “And when you are a racist, you ddeserve to be called a cunt.”
Michelle Sharpe: “Yes, Emilia Reyes exclamations points do validate her points perfectly and her response was perfect! [many exclamation points]”
You may be wondering, hey, wait…who called Jamie a cunt?
Celia Aaron: “Candace Owens is a known right-wing raconteur fame-seeker akin to Diamond and Silk, and you posting this fucked up opinion makes you a huge racist cunt (no, her being black DOES NOT save you from being a huge racist cunt), just FYI.”
Robert Christopher: “Somebody has a case of the Monday’s…
Whitney Reynolds: “Wow”
But wait…who was the man calling a woman a cunt? I bet you’ll never guess.
John Eighner: “Celia Aaron well you are just a dumb cunt then”
Surely McGuire blocked such rudeness. She wants discussion and conversation, no meanness allowed!
Jamie McGuire: “Celia Aaron I envision you high-fiving yourself after that and looking around at an empty room w a proud smile bc you thought it was super cool.”
Celia Aaron: “Jamie McGuire good comeback. Hey, tell me how that whole ‘I’ll run for Congress!’ thing worked out for ya?”
For those unaware, McGuire recently announced her candidacy for Oklahoma State House of Representatives then just as quickly announced the suspension of her campaign due to “an obscure rule” that is literally on the top of the page you sign to register as a candidate. I won’t link to those forms because they have her home address on them, but they are public, as is the video of the hearing where she argued that the rules should be bent for her.
Jessica Landers: “^And then go post in the drama groups high-fiving the rest of the “I hate JM” club while cheering because “you told her”. [crying laughing emoji]
John Eighner: “Celia Aaron were you able to type all of that without losing your breath?”
Jamie McGuire: “Jessica Landers Every time. [crying laughing emoji]”
John Eighner “Celia Aaron careful you will give yourself a heart attack.”
Jamie McGuire: “It was great, actually! Can’t wait to do it again.”
I’m sure she can’t wait to do it again, considering she’d already accepted donations for her campaign then magnanimously offered to return those donations “if” people wanted their money back.
So, as we see, “rudeness gets blocked” goes out the window when people who agree with Owens’s viewpoint (not McGuire’s, of course, she’s made that very clear by stating several times that this is just discussion) are the ones hurling fatphobic insults and the word “cunt.” But this is Jamie McGuire, who used the term “cum-burping gutter-slut” to describe a woman in one of her books. It’s okay to be rude to women, as long as you’re being rude to women who aren’t the protagonist in the story of this universe, who is clearly Jamie McGuire.
Shannon Smith: “Wow I wasn’t going to comment but I cannot believe a woman that is accusing someone of being racist can call another woman a “cunt” in the same sentence. I thought non racists also were feminists? [crying laughing emoji] Jamie McGuire I think you can forget this woman “fixing the crown on another woman’s head and not putting her down” kind of situation. I kinda feel like this post was about seeing that not every damn situation in life is about being black or white or whatever. I have white and Latino. I’d wager to say we all have more than one race in us if we go back far enough. This life is an individual, case by case scenario. Or should be…”
I think we’re all smart enough to see the numerous problems in Smith’s colorblind appeal to our African ancestry while also referring to “non racists” as if that’s a group she’s not a part of, so I’m going to just leave it. Like, sometimes the racists just do enough on their own.
Jamie McGuire: “Shannon Smith: [four clapping hand emojis] tbh these posts always bring out the hypocrites. And I also enjoy blocking lurking trolls so they have to start using their husbands’ accounts to participate in the hate groups. It’s the little things.”
I have a husband. He has a Facebook account. I’m blocked by Jamie McGuire. Do you know what I do? Nothing because I’d never been following her or going to her page in the first place and I’m not about to start now. And all those hate groups and trolls McGuire is so proud of baiting? They’re the ones who send me updates on her. People hate Jamie McGuire so much that they let me know when she has a cold before she even gets a chance to sneeze.
That’s bad. That’s really, really bad.
Right now, in the United States, we’ve seen such a polarizing of the political spectrum that Jamie McGuire could come out tomorrow posing poolside in a Confederate Flag bikini, wearing a MAGA hat, brandishing an AK-47 in an N-word-laden Instagram post praising Hitler and it would be wildly appealing to many of her fervent fans. They would argue in threads one hundred comments long that she is not a racist, everyone else is racist for bringing up race, it’s about her Southern heritage in her state that didn’t exist until after the Civil War and how dare anyone shame her. You’re probably all fat. And gay.
Those people don’t let their anger go. But not in the petty, fun, take-a-walk-and-sit-under-the-shade-tree-with-me way. In the Hitler-had-the-right-idea way. And those people vote. And McGuire apparently plans to run for state congress again.
Of course, not all the people who agree with her can also vote in Oklahoma. But the world is so much smaller now, and her following is large and spread out over multiple continents. All it takes is one Tweet or Facebook post crossing the right pair of eyes and it could get attention from Republicans in higher places. Maybe even the President, himself. And if not, certainly it could make The Washington Post. Fox News would probably see an opportunity to flaunt her as their answer to Stacey Abrams. After all, they’re both romance writers. They’re both women. They’ve both run for office. Why not put Jamie McGuire on as a serious pundit. She could answer all the important questions about race and whether or not it affects anything. And they can trot her out every time a Black person is murdered in a hate crime in this country so she can weigh in on it.
Am I saying that we should never call out racists because it causes racism? Absolutely not. But we have ample evidence that anyone can make money appealing to white supremacists as long as they’re sincere enough. McGuire took the real-life lynching of a living, breathing, loved human being, and turned it into a chance to stir up some attention for herself. To build the “I say it like it is” down-home, good ole’ boy’s girl image. She’s sincere in her racism. She knew exactly what the response would be when she posted the video and began responding to comments the way she did. If she truly did not want to be perceived as a racist, she wouldn’t have posted the video. She could have opted not to say anything at all. But she was trying to energize her base. She’s gearing up for her next run at an office.
We no longer live in an age of, “never gonna be president now.” The racism, the hatred of anyone who isn’t white, Christian, straight, cis, gun-owning, liberty-loving, thin, and rich is a feature. It’s what her fans are shopping for. It’s what they buying from her. Every time we let her get us up in arms with one of her bullshit discussions it just leads to more people defending her, more people encouraging her to tell it like it is, more people offering her their support. There’s no need to prove that Jamie McGuire is an evil person anymore because she gives us that proof time and again. She’ll do that work on her own and parlay the callouts into unwavering support. She’s like a giant, Juvéderm-stuffed Katamari rolling up everything that is wrong with America and dressing it up in Ann Taylor separates. Jamie McGuire is Great Value™ Trump in a cheap red wig.
I’m done with Jamie McGuire. I’m not going to be sitting here twenty years down the line watching her wax head melt on live TV during the presidential debates. I’m not going to have arguments with Conservative family members about why I can be a feminist and still not support her plan to put mothers who vaccinate their children into labor camps. This is not a road I’m going to help pave any longer. I am not going to participate in this woman’s desperate upward claw to become the next Ann Coulter or Katie Hopkins or Tomi Lahren. As far as I’m concerned, Jamie McGuire no longer exists and no longer gets fed any attention by me. Because a Jamie McGuire that cannot feed is a Jamie McGuire who cannot succeed. Jealous Haters Book Club is switching over to Crave by Tracy Wolff, which has been touted as the “feminist Twilight.” We’ll see how that shakes out. I liked Twilight, I’ve never read this author, we’ll see where this goes.
And please, please don’t forget about Ahmaud Arbery in this chaotic time, when there are new horrors springing up in the news every day. He and his family deserve justice, as do all victims and families of victims of hate crimes. Please consider donating or sharing the link to the official fund for Ahmaud Arbery’s family.